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Liberal group asks EU to accept Chen

Hans van Baalen, vice president of Liberal International, a London-based global federation of liberal parties that granted President Chen Shui-bian the 2001 Prize for Freedom, revealed the latest developments with regard to the international body's attempt to find a country within in the EU where Chen would be able to receive the award in person. Van Baalen, talked to staff reporter Monique Chu on THursday about the prize after his meeting with Chen

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Hans van Baalen, vice president of Liberal International and member of the Dutch parliament.

PHOTO: CHEN CHENG-CHANG, TAIPEI TIMES

Taipei Times: Can you briefly talk about your meeting with President Chen (陳水扁)?

Hans van Baalen: I had a one-hour discussion with your president ... We debated the Liberal International and [this year's] Prize for Freedom because we must find a place where we can physically give the award to the president. There are some hurdles to overcome ... we need to arrange a visa for the president to receive the prize in an EU country.

Another thing was cross-strait relations, [including] one-China policy or independence of Taiwan, and the relationship with China. The third item was the relationship with the EU, the US, and also the WTO. And we also talked about the elections of Dec. 1.

TT: As you know, the Danish government made it very clear earlier this month that it would not grant Chen a visa to facilitate his trip to Denmark to receive the award. What's the main reason for Denmark's refusal?

Van Baalen: I speak now as the vice president of Liberal International, although I am also a member of the Dutch parliament.

We deplore the fact that the president was denied a visa for Denmark.

The Danish government referred to the EU's unofficial rule, which stated that the five most important political figures of the ROC, including the president, vice president, premier, foreign minister, and defense minister, would not get a visa even [if] they apply for private reasons. This is a thing we deplore very much because it is a human right to travel, and they are elected by the people, at least the president and the vice president are directly elected by the people.

So I think they should be able to travel, just as the US has issued a visa to the president recently when he was going to Latin America.

We would like the EU to adopt a line common to that of the US.

I myself have tabled, as a European affairs spokesman in parliament, questions to the Dutch government, and the Dutch government [is] also concerned [about] that EU line. This is something we deplore.

As Liberal International, we can lobby, we can speak out -- like I am doing now -- we can put pressure on our government, but we have no ability to issue a visa ourselves.

But I have promised President Chen to do my utmost to make it possible that we find options inside the EU. That means options other than Denmark.

TT: Will your country, Holland, become a possible destination for Chen to receive the award?

Van Baalen: Unhappily, no. I asked this question in parliament on July 5, which was the day before recess. The minister of foreign affairs, in a letter dated July 19, replied that the Dutch government [would] stick to the European line.

But you know there are differences in opinion inside the EU on that line. So I do not know what other governments will say. But we are exploring the options.

TT: As of now, what's the latest development in your exploration?

Van Baalen: Let me be clear on this. This is a matter on which I can't give you the information because it's by silent diplomacy. If tomorrow I said that country X, Y or Z is thinking of giving a visa [to Chen], you know what would happen.

So we would talk with governments and talk with members of parliament.

We have good relations with the European Parliament, in which the Liberals have tabled questions to the commissioner in charge of external relations, Chris Patten. We will explore other options.

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