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Giuliani on hazards of Trump interview: ‘Truth isn’t truth’

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Rudy Giuliani, an attorney for US President Trump, speaks during a campaign event for Eddie Edwards, who is running for the US Congress in New Hampshire, in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on Aug. 1.

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“Truth isn’t truth,” US President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday while explaining why he is wary about pushing the US president into an interview that he says could be a perjury trap.

Giuliani’s statement is reminiscent of a comment from another Trump aide last year about “alternative facts.”

Giuliani used the line “truth isn’t truth” on NBC’s Meet the Press with Chuck Todd.

He was trying to make the case that having Trump sit down for an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team would not accomplish much because of the he-said-she-said nature of witnesses’ recollections.

The former New York mayor cited as an example former FBI director James Comey, who has said that Trump pushed him at a private meeting to ease up in the federal investigation of former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Trump has disputed that.

“I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury,” Giuliani said. “And when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well, that’s so silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth.”

When Todd replied, “Truth is truth,” Giuliani responded: “No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth. Donald Trump says: ‘I didn’t talk about Flynn with Comey.’ Comey says: ‘You did talk about it,’ so tell me what the truth is.”

The comments left Todd flummoxed, but not Comey.

“Truth exists and truth matters. Truth has always been the touchstone of our country’s justice system and political life. People who lie are held accountable. If we are untethered to truth, our justice system cannot function and a society based on the rule of law dissolves,” Comey tweeted.

Trump and his aides have been accused of spreading lies and disinformation.

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway famously referred to such claims early last year as “alternative facts.”

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