Taiwan's legislative delegation, led by Legislative Speaker Wang Jin-pyng (
Delegation members quote the US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz as having firmly nixed any suggestion that Taiwan's China Shipbuilding Corporation take part in the construction of the vessels.
US officials conceded, however, that China Shipbuilding could be involved in maintenance and logistics support for the submarines, according to Wang and others.
Letting China Shipbuilding build some of the subs would be a "waste of resources," Wolfowitz reportedly maintained.
The US will not help Taiwan to "build" the vessels, but will only "help them buy" them, delegates said.
NEW DIFFERENCES
New differences between Taiwan and the US over the question of Taiwan acquisition of diesel-powered submarines came into sharp focus this week during talks between delegation members and American officials, delegation members revealed in Washington on Wednesday.
The lawmakers were clearly unhappy with the responses they received from the Americans during three days of talks with Pentagon, Department of State and other US officials, the delegates said in a meeting with Taiwanese reporters at the end of the visit.
Wang and nearly two dozen other lawmakers and government defense and foreign officials spent three days in high-level talks with US officials on arms purchases, mainly those covered by the US$18 billion special budget the Cabinet has approved.
However, in a process outlined by the Americans, which is alien to Taiwan's usual practices, the US said that Taiwan should give performance specifications to all potential companies bidding for the contract to build the subs and conduct competitive bidding to see who could build the best and cheapest vessels.
That would leave the cost of the eight vessels the government seeks to purchase -- estimated by Taiwanese experts at about US$12 billion -- up in the air.
How Taipei would arrange payment is also a matter of dispute. The legislators want Washington to provide detailed quotes for the price of the equipment and then use those figures to pass a special arms procurement budget.
On the other hand, the US wants Taiwan to pass the budget first, and then go out to bid for individual items.
The legislators complain that during this week's talks, the Americans provided only vague, two-page summaries of the costs, using which it is impossible to make policy decisions.
These, and other disagreements, left a bad feeling among the delegation.
People First Party (PFP) Legislator Lin Yu-fang (
Lin wondered whether the US thinks it is in its interest that the confrontation between Taiwan and China "should continue, short of military confrontation."
He said that Wang conveyed a message from President Chen Shui-bian (陳水扁) to US officials during a Monday breakfast meeting at the American Institute for Taiwan seeking US help in facilitating direct links and the US revival of an offer by former Chinese president Jiang Zemin (江澤民) in his 2002 meeting with Bush to reduce the number of missiles facing Taiwan in exchange for a slowdown in US arms sales to Taipei.
The US reaction was "negative," Lin said, quoting US officials as saying the issues are for Taiwan and China themselves to resolve. There would be no US role, the Americans said.
However, Lin said, "this is the first inning in a long ball game," indicating that the jockeying between Taipei and Washington still has a long way to go before resolution.
The lawmakers reached a consensus on two issues, Wang said.
First, the US side should come up with a new, cheaper quotation for the subs' price. Second, the Americans should assure Taiwan that the subs are delivered sooner than earlier estimates.
While the time frames varied, Wang said Taiwan is seeking a delivery date two to three years earlier than previous dates.
However, a Taiwanese military official said that the new timetable would see delivery within 10 years, compared with the previously estimated 15 years. That 15 year time frame is much longer than estimates provided by both sides earlier.
Prices and procurement procedures for the other weapons systems on the shopping list eight P-3C anti-submarine aircraft, and six PAC-III Patriot anti-missile systems do not seem to be as much of an issue, since both of those systems already exist.
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